Jane Smith talks Food Prices, Taxonony & True Cost of Paris; Jamie MacKay on the Country
Extract :: Now, Jane, I'm ready to be outraged by climate liberation? Are you ready to be outraged by us being still in the Paris Agreement or accord? And the fact that the Commerce Commission has dismissed Federated Farmer's complaint on net zero banking?
Where do you want to start? What outrage do you want to begin with?
Jane: Well, well, I guess I'm good afternoon. Jamie, Paris is our friend. I think that's a really unpalatable line, especially coming from anyone that does support the Save our Sheep campaign. Anyone that's aghast about pine trees, carbon farming, that taxonomy, bent cartels, all of those things are actually symptoms of the bigger problem. The bigger problem is a Paris accord. But it seems to have this holier than drafting gates that, supposedly our sole reason that the world allows us to sell our wears on a global stage.
I don't recall, when we signed up to this, and when was that about ten years ago? Our milk and meat prices, magically going up? And can I remind both your listeners, both urban and rural, that the Paris Agreement costs is at least a twenty four billion dollar commitment by 2030, which is just around the corner.
Jamie: But hang on, Jane, hang on, we're not going to pay that. The government's already said we're not going to part because we've got these targets to meet. We're clearly not going to meet them by twenty thirty, and Emperor's new clothes or whatever you want to call it, Basically, there will be no punishment other than a slap over the wrist with a wet bus ticket.
Jane: Exactly, Jamie. So that shows you that it's not worth a paper it's written on. But actually for MPs to say we won't need to you know, it'll be fine, we won't need to pay, that's weird because they've already forked out $685 million dollars anyone could look that up and see that between 2020-2023, so in the last few years. But the bigger price, as you know, irreversible land use change, expensive renewable energy that's costly and short term and you know, nothing like the nineteen thirties dams, built up the Waiteki Valley from me here, Jamie.
Power and food inflation, actually food inflation, ladies and gentlemen. If you're thinking you're paying enough the butter at the moment and it's very expensive, we'll fasten your seat belt because once we add the true cost of the Paris Accord, and their technology and initiatives, additives, boluses, pills, potions plus land use change; just to tick the Paris box, wait and see!.
Jamie: Well, okay, Jane, if we were to follow what Bryce and Laurie from Groundswell want and what you want and what Winston wants, and we pull out of the Paris Accord, slash agreement, we're going to lose three dollars per kilogram on milk solids, so all of a sudden we won't have to worry about the price of butter and cheese.
Jane: It's really interesting to see that figure plucked out of the air because there is a country, Jamie, I was thinking about this morning on the farm. As a country, we seem to be terrified of the wrong things. We seem to be terrified of what highly subsidised, heavily populated industrial countries think of us more so than protecting and promoting our natural competitive advantage, which actually is using our resources, our water, our highly productive soils, our hill country or high country to our advantage, or grass feed protein. And actually, if we carry on this pathway, we're going to end up like the UK and the EU.
I mean you look at the EU. They're currently paying land owners not to produce food!
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